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Is there an author of the expression "in the family circle"? Russian uses the same construction "v krugu sem'yi". Is it a loan translation?

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I don't believe that it is a catchphrase in English. The term "family circle" is in English usage from the early 19th century. The underlying metaphor is clear enough that it could easily have evolved...

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Is it a loan translation?Certainly not from English to Russian or vice versa. I wouldn't say it's an isolated phrase requiring specific explanation in either language; rather, it's a special instance...

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Dutch uses 'kring' in exactly the same way. Expressions like 'familiekring', 'besloten kring' (private circles), 'kringgesprek' (lit. "circle conversation") etc. are very common. Maybe it is just one...

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Nothing whatsoever wrong with being wordier than anyone else here, languagehat. In fact, it's almost prescribed reading.I'd almost forgotten "kring", Dutchtoo. Thanks for that one.

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Dutch uses 'kring' in exactly the same way.And, of course, kreis in German as in Familienkreis, Kirchenkreis (an association of churches in a locality).

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English,...Français: dans le cercle de la famille.Deutsch: im Kreise der Familie. I may be wrong but I don't think the phrase might have appeared independently in all the above mentioned languages. If...

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I don't think the phrase might have appeared independently in all the above mentioned languagesOf course it might. The family is a natural "circle" in this sense; it's no more of a stretch than...

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I'm not convinced,though. And here are my considerations. The first: this expression was not mentioned in Dahl's dictionary.It makes me think there wasn't such an expression in the Russian language at...

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